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Deities and Powers, The 5 Elder Gods by Level9Drow Deities and Powers, The 5 Elder Gods by Level9Drow
These are the five Elder Gods of Mid-World. I have all the more Normal Gods and Titans done in pencil already (even a few of the individual Elder Gods), but they are not inked yet and haven't been since 2009. As you can see this was done way back then. Every cool fantasy world has to have Elder Gods. Lovecraftian mythos is too irresistible to me. In the spirit of the Elder Gods done in Lovecrafts story and so many other fantasy worlds that have had their own, like D&D, WoW, Castlevania, Rift, there are a lot, I made them giant alien beings of immense alien sentience and cold malevolence with strange morphic aberrational forms. But I have my own twist. These 5 Elder Gods are actually fleeing another one named Hoon (working name) that is of immense size, even bigger than the Titans. Hoon devours everything in the outer dimensions, even other aberrations. These 5 Elder Gods escaped the netherealms from beyond and Hoon is simply too big to fallow. However, these 5 Elder Things have taken an intense interest in the mortal races (well a few of them). The ones that have taken an interests is Shogotha (the top one) who can create infernal fire and has a taste for destruction and corruption, and Yog' Shokruul (the lower right one) who is the patron of the underdark, aberrations in general and slime. The other ones are not known to most mortals and haven't entered the dynamics of influencing or consuming the mortal races...yet. I have their names somewhere around here, but I have since forgot of the top of my head. The corresponding symbols are their "holy symbols" or ancient ciphers signifying them, their names.

Now these 5 are grouped in this picture because they are the ones that are considered evil (or alien and cold enough without morality) by most all mortals. But it's important to note that more escaped Hoon besides these 5 that are listed normally with the other deities because they are not as ravenous, very neutral in comparison and reside over things like fungi, Ocean and other stuff. They just aren't as ambitious, or motivated by domination as these guys are. All this operates under the assumption that the aberration-like entities from the dimensions beyond are actually different to varying degrees and are not all the same nor all unified. Many of them are not even divine, but lower races, as you will all eventually see. Hope you guys dig it :)
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Deyran Featured By Owner Nov 24, 2013
Woah, this looks simply brilliant! The shading is very good and the individual forms look both terrifying and fantastic!
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Level9Drow Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013
Thanks! I do love Lovecraftian mythos. I tried to make them emulate it. :D
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k0r0k0r0 Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2013
I'm sorry but the bottom right made me think of some common Japanese hentai.  I apologize if this offends you.
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Level9Drow Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013
lol. No offense taken. 
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fearydistress Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013
Simply genius - design and story alike.
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Level9Drow Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013
Thanks man.
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PlutonianKnight Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
It's very cool as a piece of art; I love the layout, design, and linework (the areas fading into shadow must have taken some thought!). As far as the lore goes, that also sounds cool to me...it's a fantasy world, you can (and probably should) throw everything in and see how it shapes up. It reminds me of Arthur C. Clarke's third law: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clarke's...
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Level9Drow Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013
Ah so that's where that law came from, I've heard it before. It's a great one and I agree. :D
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Lordoffantasy Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013
no wonder you were talking so much about elder gods lately. lols.

....still uncertain about the idea of these bastards in a world where sterotypical gods exist. from where i look it, the gods would be higher than elder gods. elder gods rely on understanding the universe. the gods, however, are part of the universe, living focal points of not only forces and energies, but abstract thoguht and concepts.

hard to explain my thought here. its like..... like a scientist trying to use his science technology to subdue a being of raw supernatural, elemental force. the scientist can make any device he can to generate the same ffects as this elemental being, but it will always be a pale, inferior comparison to what the elemental being is capable of without any aid.
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Level9Drow Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013
Here, this will explain a lot...[link]
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Level9Drow Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013
According to Lovecrafts universe the gods are less than the "Outer Gods", take a look at this...[link]
The Outer Gods of Lovecrafts universe WERE the universe, well Azethoth was. He was the Idiot Piper who brought everything into existence. And The normal Gods were being greater than humanity who seemed like Gods, especially when you consider Zeus, Odin, Jesus, Vishun and all them were essentially humans, made in human image and had silly human emotions and thought like humans only they had immortality and more power. The Outer Gods were outside of human understanding, from ages of time and space we could not understand. Zeus lived just on that mountain over there, called Olympus (we can fly to it now)and we understood all the stories about him just fine: He got angry over here and did this, he raped this girl, his wife got jealous, all very human. All the other human gods fall under this all too human "anthropomorohizing" while the Great Old Gods live beyone eternity and weren't anything like us, we were too primitive to understand them. There are no stories about what Shubneguroth does on a normal day, and if there was we wouldn't understand it.

Understand the context of the times ot Lovecraft as well. People were more rational and many people no longer believed in the gods. We had airplanes, machine guns and bombs in Lovecraft's time and all these things would kill Zeus and Vishnu, if we were to go by the stories of what his power and vulnerabilities were. Lovecraft was also a Sci-fi Horror author. Whne he designed the great ancient gods he was thinking with a more modern mind and with the knowledge that humans are pretty powerful themselves so what would constitute a credible god in our time? Well, it had to be nothing like us, like all the other Gods, immortal,. At that time we were learning about other dimensions, biology and cells and micro organisms with the invention of the microscope. So he must have though a true god is liken to me as I am to a flea or even amoeba. They didn't know all this stuff back then when they made up the standard gods, we as humans were not that imaginative and didn't know enough so we just made gods powerful humans that were immortal and kinda smarter. Lovecraft also understood that humans are just one animal in the universe, we aren't special. So when he made gods he understood that they would be alien in form from us. In his age people also learned (or "discovered") moral relativism. There is no true good or evil, it's all relative to nature and nurture. So these gods were beyond morals and good and evil, they were entities that didn't care about humans, just another primate that crawls on the 3rd rock from the sun, on among st billions of animal species. And too short lived and dumb to care about in a personal way. This is the reason Lovecraft was and is so famous and why his stories are terrifying. Because he is a sci-fi/horror and has a very realistic well thought out concept of gods and aliens or god/aliens, which in his world are the same thing and that makes sense. Angels would be aliens, gods would be aliens, they're not from this world nor are they human. You should read some of his more prominent stories, they are all short stories and easy to read and really suspenseful, horrifying and eerie to ponder afterwards.

For the record i do NOT use his complete versions of outer gods for Mid-world, as a rule the gods of my world are all just powerful beings, so the 5 elder gods of mid-world are in line with the other gods and equal, and ALL the gos are weaker than the titans one on one, even the elder gods. I hope that helped ya out a bit :)
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Lordoffantasy Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013
reallly, killing zeus or vishnu with modern weaponry? you do realize that it is odd saying that we cannot kill chthulu with a machien gun yet we can kill an entity that may well not even have a physical form to shoot, right? if someone were to make zeus scifi, he would be an energy being or something.

anyway, that is my point. old gods act not as gods, but as a scienc fiction replacement for gods. they are extreadimensional entities of massive power that allow abnormal events to happen that normally cannot happen in a pure science fiction story. basically they are like Q from star trek, and entity that should be abnormal in a work of science fiction, but there he is anyway and is capable of warping the universe as some greater entity.
basically they provide the potential for a warped world and dangerous horror that science fiction could not provide alone becuase, despite having psychotic AI and aliens in it, it still has to fit in somehow to science. the elder gods thus are entities that are knowledge in its ultimate form, a race that has discovered all we sought to discover.

elder gods are entities taht have discovered all. Gods are entities born out of our desire to understand. both are owrks of fiction and have a similar source, desire for understanding. yet when you create a universe when a being of supreme understanding of the universe exists along side what is literally humanization of the universe, which cna you say is the more powerful one?
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Level9Drow Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013
No we COULD kill Cthulu's body, but he exist as an ineffable consciousness, as all the Outer Gods do, and so they would reform their bodies. Sometime over vast periods of time since they exist on another time frame. In his story Cthulu got killed bu a ship. And wrong, if someone were to modernize Zeus they would do it like they did with the Norse gods in the Thor movie, make them have vast amounts of technology and magic. Do you recall Clarke's third law? [link]
It was reintroduced to me by Plutoniumknight. "Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.". I've also heard similar ideas like this adding divinity into it. So the Norse gods turn out to be, in our modern knowledge, merely super advanced immortal humans who influence mortals. And so Zeus would be the same because the Greeks and Romans never said he was energy and that he was flesh and blood. sure he had powers to do things amazing, but why would "energy" live in fortresses on a mountain? Makes no sense. And plenty of the gods were susceptible to being wounded and feared oblivion and death. some even died. So if Zeus were modernize it would be just like the Thor movie, a race of human immortals who have technology that was seen as divine power to mortals, but in modern times out power as mortals grows closer to the gods and so they become less and less threatening to us as a culture. Zeus no longer scares us, neither does odin. There are stories of the feats of strength of these gods and there limits and we have with out tech today exceeded many of these limits. So in Lovecrafts time he had to invent even more sophisticated gods. Reading on...

You are right, they do serve as replacements. But they replace them in such a way that suggest that there were never any real gods anyways and that these things are more vast than gods. Zeus lived on Olympus, and has primate sex with Hera, and nymphs and drinks alcohol and eats food with his omnivorous teeth. Azethoth exists at the center of the universe and is a massive galactic sized being that forms all matter through the vibrations of his(its) "piping", some sort of vibratory particle creation. This is a whole different caliber of divine being. This thing exceeds the limited definitions of gods, it's above gods, it even created all the gods and the gods are to it as rats are to us. Reading on...

Yes I agree with your definitions. But in context with a fantasy world we have to give them relative definition. And typically in most fantasy worlds they exceed the power and intellect of gods. The only other primordial beings that stand in a similar level to them is Titans. And no not giant men and women that look like Hercules and wonder woman, but primordial beings of non-conventional biology and beyond colossal size. Like a mountain being sentient and able to move around having lava for blood and a molten core for some sort of heart and rudimentary feet for slowly lumbering across the continents. these beings seem to be out of time as well, a word called "deep Time" that means before earth, before all human animal reckoning. But titans, like the outer gods, don't care about humanity. And for all the same reasons, they're too old to care and humanity is to mortal and insignificant to care about. Titans can be worshiped like gods but they answer and acknowledge no prayers. so I adopted this well thought out view for Mid-world, titans are at the top of the food chain. Why? They're neutral and uncaring. I didn't want Elder Gods to be equal because they're evil and that would be too disrupting to the world and if I made the ultimate powers neutral there would always be a power struggle below them between good and evil they could care less about. but at least the world would never be destroyed, that is the titans creation and they love it and will keep it formed. So with a stable backdrop a table top game could cohesively happen. Anyways...

Basically traditional fantasy with the traditional gods at the top of the food chain exists in small universes, or a closed off world. This is because these concepts were made by people who thought there was only planet earth, the sun, the moon and the firmament and nothing else. The sky was literally the limit, it wasn't infinity up, it was a dome that you would eventually be stopped by if you could get there. So the gods fit into this small world view. But as human knowledge becomes greater the gods no longer suffice, they're not enough. They can exist in fantasy, sure, but as merely immortal powers not much different than humans. And when you think about it, as far as the old world definition goes we really are gods today. The only thing we don't have is immortality. If I were to go back to the medieval times with a tank, machine guns, modern medicine, jet airplanes and bomb, electricity and nuclear power I, and the people that came with me, would be gods. We would do things only gods could do: Blow up entire cities with fire, kill people at will with bolts of power, one guy in full body armor with a ammo and mounted Gatling gun would level a whole entire army of knights, no arrow would hurt him, and he would kill multiple people every minute. they would bow down and worship us....until they discovered what we knew, effectively taking from the tree of knowledge, as it were. Um...I forgot what I was getting to, oh well.

I hope you liked that documentary. Many top rated writers love Lovecraft, you should check him out man, people like him for a reason. I think you would be delighted. If not than i'm sorry to turn you towards his direction and to have wasted your time, but at least you'll know for sure. :)
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Lordoffantasy Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013
why would energy live in a foretress? because humans THINK it does pretty much. shrugs. just because that is what people htink does not make it the reality.... like playing with that idea in my book.

i appreciate lovecraft, but i find a lot of his views confusing and sometimes contradicting. focusing on human insignificance as a solely negative aspect yet saying, oh this giant space jellyfish are true beings. kinda hard to swallow when you stop and think, okay we may be smaller, but they are no more master of the universe than we are. for all their power, they universe will exist on even if they all become extinct. also find some positive aspect to being without purpose. when one has not purpose, that means they have limitless potential.
also the whole them being incomprehensible when.... often their actions are comprehensible. looking down on a species as nothing, a very human quality after all. hell we do it to our own kind far too often. them taking over the world, comprehensible. even the genocide is comprehensible, clearing room.

....difference between a modern weaponry and a god...... they don't need modern weaponry.
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sezmilthe2nd Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013
The evil Lovecraftian deities are called The Great Old Ones, not the Elder Gods. The Elder Gods are ones like Nodens, who slew The Great Old Ones and allowed human civilization to rise. Elder Gods being an evil term is more like Marvel than Lovecraft. Sorry to nitpick.
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curtsibling Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
It was August Derleth's expanded ideas which gave us this theme that there was "good" and "evil" in the Lovecraft cosmos, something Lovecraft himself did not bother with. He merely pointed out that the universe was host to strange and terrible beings. The only gods specifically described were those in the "Randolph Carter" stories. Mostly the great alien monsters are uncaring of concepts like human morals...
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Level9Drow Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013
I know, but I am not making "real" Lovecraft creatures. These are like them. So this isn't Lovecraft mythos, it's something like it. Mid-world isn't Lovecraft's world no more than World of Warcraft or Dungeons and Dragons is his world. But WoW has Elder Gods like Yogsaron and Nazoth and D&D has Elder Gods like Dagon and K'thoon, but they are not Lovecraft's invention, just in the spirit of his mythos. So for Mid-world they are simply called the Elder Gods. That's good enough for Mid-world as Mid-world's mythos doesn't evolve completely around the 5 Elder Gods. Rather the 5 Elder Gods are an enhancement to a huge and grand world of many diverse fantasy mythos. But no worries about the nit picking, I to am a fan and I have all his literature and also stuff by Donald Tyson which expands on it in more detail. It's nice to see there are fans still out there ;)
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Level9Drow Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2013
This was actually for my old campaign i ran for 3.5...of course things will change when converting everything to the Mid-World game.
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